I said: "Anyhow, I am quite sure it is the first situation." drainsurgeon said: ↑ "I meant initial stabilization (roughly 10 days post ferment), not pre-ferment. I've always thought of 1/4 tsp per 6 gallons was standard treatment but the kit kmeta pack had a full 1/2 tsp in it. Then I was wrong, and need to think more about kit stabilization protocal. When I hear "initial stabilization" I think of what is added to the fruit... not the expressed juice. Yet in kits, you start with juice so "initial" has perhaps a different meaning. What is the full (KIT) stabilization process like, are there any other stages?