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Skip K-sorbate and let kit manufacturer know about what works for you. Best of luck.

From bottling on

Not worth the money. Go with fresh grapes

You can have them

I didn't add it to my chardonnay. It came out perfect. My problem is only with dry red wines though.

The mistake I have made 3 years ago was that I listened to people like you who at that time got me to believe that kit wines are as good if not better than commercial wines. I'm glad though that my opinion was heard.

Good article. I'm just shocked that kit wine manufacturers include K-sorbate in the kit knowing that it can create potential flows.

Good article. I'm just shocked that kit wine manufacturers include K-sorbate in the kit knowing that it can create potential flows.

Well, thanks for comforting me. I gotta start getting more people to taste my wines. Would the people have good sense of smell? Be honest? Dishonest perhaps? Most of my friends loved it but they like Carlo Rossi as well.... By the way I don't smell that in non kit wines. Including the once I've made

I wish I could say the same. Thanks though.

Damn, I misspelled both names. My bad. Been thinking about French Polynesia.

Looks like some of us should join biology or linguistics forums. I have had really bad results with kit red wines. Some responders agreed that kit wines are not as good as wines made with fresh grapes. Most think that kit wines are as good or better than commercial wines. Interesting...

Really cool but off subject

Then why bring it up again. This post is about kit wines having bad smell and flavor that as a matter of fact people besides me detect. I intend to start another thread and ask everyone else to speak up if they experience the same out comes. I've invested a good chunk of cash into this hobby, so...

Rotatan my favorite so far. Heading off to Curacu in Jan.

I've closely followed the provided instructions to get optimal results. Addition of malolactic bacteria was not something the manufacturers suggested nor mentioned as far as I know . Perhaps I should have experimented with it after I started noticing the issue. The dry fruit wines I have made...

I'm glad people like you admit to have the same issue I've described. Majority doesn't care or doesn't notice it. Good for them. We have the liberty of expressing our opinions about product to help the consumer as well as the kit manufacturers like RJS and WE in developing better product. If we...

I did one batch from grapes. No problem with odors or kit tastes.

I agree and am a scuba diver since about 5 years.

Just sampled the 5 month young Eclipse Cab Sav in a previously used barrel. Didn't use sorbate. It tastes very promissing. Compared it to the WE 2013 and EnPrimeur Cab aged in bottles. Huge difference!