Shiraz-Syrah
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They are the same grape. As you say, the wine they make will taste differently, depending on where they are grown. Just like a Pinot Noir grown in Okanagan will taste different than one grown in Burgundy.
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Thanks Paul. I was pretty sure the regions would make a difference but got into "a discussion"with a friend ,who's brother is taking courses in wine making.He kept insisting there was no difference,just a name.I bowed out but I was almost positive there would be some difference because of where the grapes were grown.For my own knowledge, just wanted to know
It sounds to me like a case where you were both right, but making different points.
-Yes, they are the same -- genetically.
-Yes, they are different -- environmentally.
So I've got three of those vines in my so cal yard, what do I call them? I've bought them listed as Syrah but my climate is much closer to Australia
Mike
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I would call them Syrah. Australia came up with the new name to try and jumpstart sales. They planted boatloads of the grape and it grew crazy well and produced tons of grapes which made zillions of gallons of wine.
Shiraz sounded new, different, hip, cool........ Please buy my "Shiraz"!
There is an old winemakers joke that says "Its easier to get rid of a case of Gonorrhea than it is to get rid of a case of Syrah."
Shiraz sounded new, different, hip, cool........ Please buy my "Shiraz"!
There is an old winemakers joke that says "Its easier to get rid of a case of Gonorrhea than it is to get rid of a case of Syrah."
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Well, the tenor of that may be true, but the name "Shiraz" in English for the grape and the wine goes back to the 1830's (when modern Australia was just a pup). Some believed that the grape was brought to France from the Iranian city Shiraz, which was famous for its wines. This was found to be incorrect, based on DNA studies.
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I would call them Syrah. Australia came up with the new name to try and jumpstart sales. They planted boatloads of the grape and it grew crazy well and produced tons of grapes which made zillions of gallons of wine.
Shiraz sounded new, different, hip, cool........ Please buy my "Shiraz"!
There is an old winemakers joke that says "Its easier to get rid of a case of Gonorrhea than it is to get rid of a case of Syrah."
I wanted to like your post because of the winemakers joke, but I couldn't find myself clicking like to something with the word gonorrhea in it hah.
