Wine Making & Grape Growing Forum > Wine Making > Beginners Wine Making Forum > dumb question, but are grapes slimey.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-06-2013, 04:52 PM   #1
jamesngalveston
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Galveston, Texas
Posts: 4,486
Liked 780 Times on 606 Posts
Likes Given: 469

Default dumb question, but are grapes slimey.

I have noticed that the wild mustang grapes when crushed/smashed, etc
are slimy as heck....is this the same with cultivated grapes...
Its pretty repulsive. Only thing close to this slime is boiled okra.


jamesngalveston is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2013, 06:12 PM   #2
dralarms
Senior Member
 
dralarms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,103
Liked 451 Times on 335 Posts
Likes Given: 709

Default

Yep. They are pretty gross.


dralarms is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2013, 11:46 PM   #3
jamesngalveston
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Galveston, Texas
Posts: 4,486
Liked 780 Times on 606 Posts
Likes Given: 469

Default

thanks for the reply, dralarms...i agree they are pretty gross..
jamesngalveston is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 05:01 AM   #4
dralarms
Senior Member
 
dralarms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,103
Liked 451 Times on 335 Posts
Likes Given: 709

Default

Muscadines seem to be the worst.
dralarms is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 06:54 AM   #5
jamesngalveston
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Galveston, Texas
Posts: 4,486
Liked 780 Times on 606 Posts
Likes Given: 469

Default

i was shocked at the slime, but also the muddy looking juice..i was expecting concord grape juice and i got light brown muck. its red when its stirred.
jamesngalveston is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 07:23 AM   #6
Turock
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,224
Liked 481 Times on 380 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

James---I've never worked with Mustang grapes but have had a number of conversations with people who have. How big is the pulp on these grapes? Are they small and transluscent? Can you pop the skin off these the way you do a concord or is it pretty much attached to the pulp? And did you use pectic enzyme on them?

There are some grapes--like Foch---that have a real small gel in them. You don't normally use pectic enzyme on grapes like these because all you get is slime. Those small grapes break down in the fermentation without it. Grapes like concord and Niagara have a huge gel pack and you NEED pectic enzyme with those. But you don't use it with some grapes.

Mustang grapes are hard to work with because they are very acidic. You need to dilute with water to get the acid under control because you can't use calcium carbonate to bring it all the way to a PH of about 3.4 How did you adjust the acid?
Turock is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 08:00 AM   #7
jamesngalveston
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Galveston, Texas
Posts: 4,486
Liked 780 Times on 606 Posts
Likes Given: 469

Default

the pulp is small and transparent, skins come off very easily.
I cut my pectin enzyme in half for a normal 5 gallon batch.
i started with 50 lbs of crushed grapes.
i added accidently added too much sugar...starting sg was 1.110
i ran out of yeast nutrient...i made my own out of cooking down 3 ripe bananas to a paste and added 1/3 to must.
after 3 days i strained off, 1/2 of the pulp. added 1/3 of banana paste.

after 3 more days i strained off the remainder. added 1/3 of banana paste.
added 1/2 gallon water to get to 6 gallon mark.
as of this am...still have strong ferment going with sg at almost 1.000
smells very good , and taste good.


jamesngalveston is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Wine Making Forum Replies Last Post
Might be a dumb question ShelleyDickison Beginners Wine Making Forum 3 11-21-2012 11:03 AM
Dumb question lbwines Skeeter Pee 12 06-12-2012 06:38 AM
My dumb question of the day... SBWs Beginners Wine Making Forum 7 02-11-2012 06:02 PM
OK here is a really dumb question Koom Beginners Wine Making Forum 15 10-12-2010 12:20 PM
Here's a dumb question! Joanie Equipment & Sanitation 4 10-01-2007 04:36 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS