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Old 06-07-2016, 05:45 PM   #1
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Congratulations Pennsylvania! Today, the legislature passed House Bill 1690, which is expected to be signed by Governor Wolf. The “modernization” bill primarily concerns the sale of wine and beer in grocery stores and restaurants, and keeps the state stores. But it also includes winery direct shipping provisions which, if signed, will go into effect in 60 days. The new statute would bring PA into the 21st Century, allowing U.S. wineries to receive a state-issued direct shipping license, to ship up to 36 cases per consumer per year, and to pay excise and sales taxes, among other provisions. These are similar to provisions working successfully in the majority of states. A heartfelt toast to all of you who have written your legislators over the last several years. Thank you, PA!
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Old 06-07-2016, 06:00 PM   #2
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Well done PA. Now if we could only get Maryland out of the Puritan era and get wine into grocery stores.

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Old 06-07-2016, 07:24 PM   #3
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I don't think it will happen, the governor will lose to many union votes. It would be nice if it happens
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How could this Bill hurt the Unions? Please explain.
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Someday I dream of rational laws across the union that let small wineries be. My hopes are with you PA.

I recognize that unions, COSTCO, and every business has an interest in the rules. But, the rules should not serve any niche, but all. It took years to rework our laws here in Washington, but the growth in the small business since has been great, INMO.
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How could this Bill hurt the Unions? Please explain.

By bleeding away the convenience market (e.g. those that are out buying wine for tonight's dinner) from the state store (the only game in town) to grocery stores (who typically sell with pennies' thin profit margin) it will impact the profitability of the system. Most state stores are already not profitable due to the system's inability to obtain product at a decent price; and extraordinarily high administrative and workforce costs.

The unions see this as the beginning of the end for them... The slow, painful death of their own choosing. The tiny string that pulls apart the whole sweater.
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It's not over until the fat lady sings! The state stores are making a high margin on what they sell from the wineries. They have very strict guidelines and are difficult to get your product into them. Employees are all state unionized employees making a ton of money being cashiers and stocking shelves.

 
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In Pennsylvania all wine and liquor is sold by state owned stores, all of the employees are state employees that are members of the state union. By signing this bill he will be taking work away from the state union ( big time suporters of Dem governor ) it would be putting a nail in the state run system. Don't get me wrong, i live in Pa. And would LOVE to see the state completely out of the booze business with it run by free enterprise with no quotes of licensees and a low 1 time license fee. If it does pass they will make it VERY hard for stores to get the license or to comply with the law. This is Pennsylvania we are talking about after all
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Well I am pulling for you guys none the less. State run liquor stores in 2016 is insanity. Free the grapes!
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Arkansas laws have not changed since before prohibition. There is a small winery in Door county Wisconsin that I like their blueberry wine, and their pinot Grisio. There is another in the UP of Michigan that I love their honey peach wine. The problem is that I get them, unless I go there buy them and drive back to Arkansas.. The laws here are such that you can not have alcohol shipped to your house, or business from out of state unless you are a licensed distributor, and it is shipped from your distributor. So, I can go to a winery, distillery or brewery in the state of Arkansas and have whatever shipped to my house, but have to be at the location when the items are purchased. I can't call and get it shipped, have to be there physically. Silly. I think it limits the craft makers. They normally have the good stuff anyway, but it is harder for them to distribute.. Instate anyway, they can ship out of state all they want. crazy.

 
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