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Old 10-05-2014, 05:19 PM   #1
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My third kit and I want to learn from this by tweaking. I added 4 quarts Welchs grape juice, 24 ounces organic raisins and 3 ounces Hungarian medium roast oak to the primary. My expectation is to get a reasonable red table wine. Thoughts?

 
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Old 10-05-2014, 05:48 PM   #2
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You are on the right track by tweaking Pak-lab kits. I do some Pak-labs kits for fast drinkers to give to family to keep them away from the good stuff. The one tweak that works the best are Tannins. I add Ft Rouge during fermentation and add finishing tannins before bottling. This tweak makes a world of difference.

Even with these tweaks don't expect a great wine, you will get a light bodied wine.

Pak-labs kits don't have many dissolved solids. hence the light body.

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Old 10-06-2014, 08:08 AM   #3
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Big Al, I added 1 tsp tannin powder to the primary fermentation this morning.

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Old 10-06-2014, 02:44 PM   #4
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Which tannin?
You will need more than that.
Joe's wine uses like 4 TBL of the inexpensive tannins, if you use the that check Joe's thread.

I tried his method but found I didn't like the inexpensive tannins and went with the better quality one's.

 
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Old 10-06-2014, 05:35 PM   #5
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It is LD Carlson powder. They say to use 1/3 tsp for red. I will add more when I stir in the morning. Thanks again.

 
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Old 10-06-2014, 05:59 PM   #6
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i.ve just finish this kit and it is spot on with the tweaks, tannins are tannins in my book the outcome is the same the process is the difference..
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Old 10-06-2014, 07:51 PM   #7
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Thanks Joe...I brought the tannin up to 2 tsp for the 6 gallons and I added 3 cups of simple syrup. Heck why not...I added 1 tsp of vanilla. Time will tell what I have done to this poor kit! I felt the need to speed up my learning curve...

 
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Old 10-11-2014, 08:43 AM   #8
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This is progressing into secondary fermentation. The OSG=1.092 and after primary the SG=.990. The taste has hints of fruit, slightly bitter and nice alcohol flavor. I am holding out hope for this tweaked low end kit. I am leaving the oak in the secondary.

 
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Old 10-11-2014, 10:58 AM   #9
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stay the course....it will all work out in the end ,if it hasn't at this point then that means it's not the yet the end .

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Old 10-18-2014, 06:36 PM   #10
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I went into the production room and found my carboy leaking. I should have quickly racked it, instead I touched it. POW! Thankfully it was in production so the wine just ran down the drain.

My aging cellar has no drain so I am switching to Better Bottles....comments?

I ordered WE Eclipse Sonoma Valley Pinot Noir as a replacement. My experiment batch will come another time.
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