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Old 09-24-2012, 10:38 AM   #1
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My first kit, CC Lodi Old Vine Zin, has stopped fermenting and I have now put the finings in to clear the wine, The instructions say to wait 20 days and then bottle. Instead I bought an oak barrel and I want to age in the oak barrel first. My question is how long after I put the finings in should I wait before racking it to the barrel?

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Old 09-24-2012, 04:02 PM   #2
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You can put it in anytime after adding the clarifiers. Me, I always like for the wine to clear fairly well before I rack the wine into the barrel, so I don't create as big a mess in the barrel.

When you consider many commercial wines go into the barrel without any finings, it's obvious they drop everything while in there.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:23 PM   #3
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Thanks robie , I think I'll wait a few days at least to have as much drop in the secondary as possible.

 
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:01 AM   #4
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Would there be anything wrong with ignoring the fining agents and going to barrel?

 
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:51 PM   #5
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No, not normally. Kit wines are different from fresh grapes when your talking clearing. Some times they can be a real somebitch. Just for that reason I would wait on any kit wine to be clear before putting into the barrel. There is plenty of time if you consider you have at least 18 mo before you will drink it.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:03 PM   #6
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I'm ready to put my wine into my oak barrel. It's been in the secondary for about 25 days and is clear. Is there anything that I need to do besides rack into the barrel. I've seen some mention of so2 levels. Do I need to measure the so2 levels before I rack it?

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Old 10-20-2012, 09:14 PM   #7
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My first kit, CC Lodi Old Vine Zin, has stopped fermenting and I have now put the finings in to clear the wine, The instructions say to wait 20 days and then bottle. Instead I bought an oak barrel and I want to age in the oak barrel first. My question is how long after I put the finings in should I wait before racking it to the barrel?

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I usually don't clarify the wIne before going into the barrel. I do rack it off any lees that has settled. Wouldn't it be beneficial to have the wine sit on the finer lees for at least some of the barrel aging?

 
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No need to measure SO2 before hand. Just make sure you have added the Sulfites before you transfer into the barrel.

As far wine sitting on "finer" lees, just remember that those fines will end up on the bottom the the barrel and will need to be removed from the barrel one way or another. You don't want them plugging up a good portion of the barrel.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:39 PM   #9
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I put sulfites into the secondary fermenter, do I need to add more in the barrel?

 
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A small barrel will eat up free SO2 like there is no tomorrow. You will not only need to add fairly large doses when you rack out of the barrel but you will also need an accurate way of testing for SO2 levels as well as pH.
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