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Old 10-12-2017, 05:51 AM   #41
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I've been using White Labs WLP675 because I don't know any better and that is what Harford sells. The only time I used it I didn't know better and sulfited a Chilean Sarah from the spring too quickly so it didn't work. Does anyone have any experience with this?

I've already bought it for my fall Zin and Barbera and just added it to my Sarah after making sure my SO2 levels were in range.

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:17 AM   #42
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I've been using White Labs WLP675 because I don't know any better and that is what Harford sells. The only time I used it I didn't know better and sulfited a Chilean Sarah from the spring too quickly so it didn't work. Does anyone have any experience with this?
Last year, I dosed my Petit Sirah twice with the White Labs and got nothing. It wasn't until I got some grape sludge with MLB from ceeaton (which had VP-41 MLB in it, I think) that the MLF finally kicked off and I saw bubbles.
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Last year, I dosed my Petit Sirah twice with the White Labs and got nothing. It wasn't until I got some grape sludge with MLB from ceeaton (which had VP-41 MLB in it, I think) that the MLF finally kicked off and I saw bubbles.
It was CH-16, which worked out since your ABV was pretty high as I remember. The VP-41 you have now was your "insurance policy" in case the dregs didn't do anything.
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I have lost count of how many people report issues with the liquid MLB. I suppose it must work and some people don't post the success stories.

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I have lost count of how many people report issues with the liquid MLB. I suppose it must work and some people don't post the success stories.
I think @heatherd said she's used it successfully. Maybe she can chime in if she did, or correct my memory.
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I have lost count of how many people report issues with the liquid MLB. I suppose it must work and some people don't post the success stories.
I used the Wyeast liquid MLB with success, however it is less tolerant with pH range and ABV range.
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:06 PM   #47
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I just went on White Lab's website. Ph tolerance is 3.0-4.0, ABV is 14 and SO2 is 10. I'd say Ph is within everyone's tolerance, ABV is good for most but the SO2 depending on the yeast strand could be the culprit.

 
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I just went on White Lab's website. Ph tolerance is 3.0-4.0, ABV is 14 and SO2 is 10. I'd say Ph is within everyone's tolerance, ABV is good for most but the SO2 depending on the yeast strand could be the culprit.
I agree. I don't think most of us think twice about the amount of SO2 created during fermentation. Guess you have to in order for the White Labs MLB work properly. On a side note, I do love their selection of yeasts for beer brewing, great results.
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I think @heatherd said she's used it successfully. Maybe she can chime in if she did, or correct my memory.
Craig,

I've used Wyeast from Harford a couple of times. Talking to Kevin at that time, he felt the liquid MLB were likely exposed to temperature fluctuation since they were moving from truck to fridge to carboy. His opinion, anyway, but felt that they were a bit more delicate as a result.

My favorite is VP-41, since it is more stable and seems to get the job done.
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Malbec down to 1.014 today. Slow, but steady ferment, now 11 days since pitching the D254. I'll press on Sunday. It is silky smooth and absolutely delicious. Amazing for a wine that is still fermenting. Were it not for fear of a spontaneous MLF down the road, I think I could actually consider skipping it. I haven't measured since crush, but I may be needing to add a little acid - we'll see.
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