Wade, I'm much further up in NY than Clinton VIneyards- even though I live in Clinton County. They are between NYC and Albany, I'm about 150 mile north of Albany near Plattsburgh. Sorry, it took me a while to respond today. I have been installing a kitchen for my sister today. Some day if I get some spare time I would like to take a tour of some of the many vineyards around the state. It's closer to visit the ones opening up in Vermont- they are just across the lake. Let me know what you think of Clinton Vineyards and how the wine is there.