Dean, don't get me wrong. I bottled a CC Zin that I thought was fantastic. None of this wine has turned out fantastic but turned out pretty darn good considering the cost and expectations. It is really all about expectations isn't it?! As for the tweaks, well that is another reason I started messing with these kits. I wanted to experiment and the investment was low in case the experiment was a failure. One received 1 very ripe banana per gallon and the other received the banana treatment plus 3 cups of Vinter's Harvest Black Currant juice. I would increase the oak I used though. A little tweak for next time.