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Old 06-21-2012, 08:56 PM   #11
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The actual time spent is an interesting way to look at the hobby, but to your point, I was interested in the return on my investment - or more to the point, at what total cost per bottle am I able to produce wine comparable to respectable commercial products. I have a spreadsheet to enter all of my expenses (equipment, supplies and material costs). Keeping an actual total cost of materials, and the bottles produced, gives me a cost per bottle for my wines. Currently I am at $6.12 per bottle produced. I very much doubt that anyone can find a commercial wine, at $6 a bottle that even comes close to what most of you (hopefully myself as well) are producing. This point really shows the value of my labor (which this thread confirms is not a lot) to my wine drinking friends.

Do you divide the non consumable costs down for every bottle that they produce?

Like a carboy might be $1.00 a bottle at first batch then only $0.50 second batch ect ... (adding in the previous bottles of course)

in the end I think of all my equipment as free because they end up being fractions of cents per bottle.... if you make enough that is


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Old 06-22-2012, 03:52 AM   #12
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How do we count the 2-3 hours per day/night on this forum?


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Do you divide the non consumable costs down for every bottle that they produce?

Like a carboy might be $1.00 a bottle at first batch then only $0.50 second batch etc... (adding in the previous bottles of course)

in the end I think of all my equipment as free because they end up being fractions of cents per bottle.... if you make enough that is
Yeah, I agree that my out-of-pocket costs per bottle are much lower than $6+, unless you are doing the very high end wine kits, or using expensive grapes. Bottles are re-used, equipment, fermenter, carboys, etc.) has yet to need replacement, other than a couple broken hydrometers, and I don't know how to reliably calculate water, cleaning agents, etc. that are household products. Maybe $5 per batch - so $0.16 per bottle? A few supplies (k-meta, acid, etc), but probably less than $3 per batch - so $0.10 per bottle is generous. Corks add about $0.18 per bottle. The rest is 'product' which varies from low-end kits at $1.85 per bottle (~$55 for the VN kits) to $7 per bottle (Meglioli or RQ kits at $210). So, my out-of-pocket costs are about $2.30 to $7.50 per bottle. Pretty nice IMHO - it's what keeps me coming back for more!

'Course, my hourly rate that I bill for my working time is $225, so adding 5 hours 'on-the-clock' time to the cost would add about $37 to the per-bottle cost. Ya gotta pay yourself first, right?
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Currently I am at $6.12 per bottle produced. I very much doubt that anyone can find a commercial wine, at $6 a bottle that even comes close to what most of you (hopefully myself as well) are producing. This point really shows the value of my labor (which this thread confirms is not a lot) to my wine drinking friends.
You need to start making Skeeter Pee, if you're not already. It'll bring that cost per bottle right down! I think total supplies for a 6 gal batch of pee is maybe $20, giving you $0.67 per bottle!

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I don't think I even want to THINK about how much money I have spend on equipment! I still stand by the fact that I probably wouldn't even have half of it if it weren't for Craigslist! I love my LHBS too and give them a lot of business. I don't really do it to save money though, I love it! And after tasting wines at other places, (most fruit wines I find are too sweet), I am determined to make what I like! I'll enjoy it even more knowing that I made it.


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