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Old 06-11-2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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Hey guys,


I was looking into getting a couple new kits to start for summer and I stumbled across this: http://www.finevinewines.com/ProdDetA.asp?PartNumber=4881C


I know its not wine, but what is this all about? I didn't know you could make this at home so easily, or so it appears. Has anybody done this? Can someone explain how you make this kit?


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Old 06-17-2010, 08:33 PM   #2
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Well, I went ahead and ordered the kit from George as it had me pretty intrigued. For the first part of this kit, I need steamed rice, and not having a steamer might make this part kinda tricky. I know I can make steamed rice by suspending rice in a strainer over a pot of boiling water, but I don't have a strainer fine enough that the rice won't fall through. Any ideas out there? I shall keep you all updated on the progress of this kit.


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Old 06-17-2010, 09:05 PM   #3
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Rice cookers are really handy to have and not all that expensive either (the cheap ones work as good if not better than any of the expensive ones).

I would pick one up for sure if you eat rice at all. You just dump the rice in the pot add enough water to cover the rice plus a little more and hit the start button. It will ding when its ready, no guess work at all. They also come with a steamer tray for veggies etc.

Keep us posted as this one sounded pretty interesting!
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Yes please keep us posted. I've wanted to try this kit for a while.
Oh and pics would be great as well .

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ibglowin: Thats just the problem, you can't put water on the rice. The rice can't touch the water. Does the stream tray have holes that the rice can fall through? There is a difference between cooking rice, and steaming rice, so I have found out recently.
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Well crud, no the steam tray has large holes about the size of a nickel or so.

Maybe check a good kitchen supply store, I know my SWMBO has a rather large strainer that will fit into a good sized pot and the holes are pretty darn small so I don't think rice would fall through. I'll check it tonight and see if there is a name on it and report back to you tonight.
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Scuba check out this web sitehttp://www.taylor-madeak.org/index.php/2008/02/29/how-to-make-sake-at-home-a-taylor-made-g
He is using a bamboo steamer and it looks like cheese cloth. Would something like like work for you?

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I also saw that site, it would work for my purposes, but I don't have one.I think I have found a way but don't know for sure yet, but I will let you all know as soon as I do. Anyway,


After looking at my recipe and throughly reading the homebrew sake article from the link provided above, I am first going to make the recipe I have and then at a later date try the alternative method listed above. The recipe I have makes 4 liters of sake, I wish to make 6 gals so on the left I will put the original recipe and on the right I will post the 6 gal recipe that I have multiplied up. 6 gals is 23 liters, since the original recipe makes 4 liters, I am simply multiplying everything by 5.75 to scale upto a 6 gal recipe. Here goes:




Original Recipe: x 5.75 6 gal recipe:
4 liters water 23 liters water
3.3 lbs rice 18.975 lbs rice (19lbs)
0.9 lbs Kome-Koji 5.175 lbs Kome-Koji (5)
5 grams Citric Acid 28.75 grams Citric Acid (29)
5 grams yeast 28.75 grams yeast (using 5 packets of Red Star Pasteur Champagne yeast)




The original recipe for making Kome-Koji called for:
0.9 lbs rice
1.5 grams Koji-Kin

I am not sure if I should multiple this recipe out because I am using a bigger batch, but I received a package of 10ozs of the Koji-Kin so figured why not.


6 Gal recipe once again multiplied by 5.75:
5.175 lbs rice (5)
8.62 oz Koji-Kin (I have 10 oz and will be using it all)


I was not a math major in school, so if any of these numbers or my logic is off, please speak up.
I have checked three different major grocery stores and none of them carry short grain rice, so I will have to resort to using long grain, is this a catastrophic mistake?


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Check this linkhttp://homebrewsake.com/products-page/
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10 lbs is $16. I need 25 lbs. the rice alone will be $40. Shipping on 25lbs will put me most likely close to $80 just for rice. I just got back from another store where they want $3.49 for 2lbs of short grain rice. I will most likely go to Chinatown this weekend and look for some.


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