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Old 01-20-2012, 03:08 PM   #1
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I have made 4 gallons of plum dessert wine, but:-

I have cleared it with Isinglas Finings and the wine looks clear in the demi-john, but

It will not go through a filter, a third then it is blocked up,

So I tried putting it through two coffee filters in a funnel I had to change the filters three times to get a gallon through.

Then I tried the filter again and it looks as half a gallon went through, and it is blocked up again.

I have, as I always do, Stopped it, Cleared it with Isinglas Finings, Let It stand, Racked It, Put it through a two Coffee Filters inside each other in a funnel, Then The Filter [A Boots Filter]

But it will no work this time????

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Old 01-20-2012, 10:29 PM   #2
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Im not going to even get into the "Stopping" part right now. The filter you are using is known over here as the Vinbrite gravity filter which I used to use and still own. Im not sure if you are using the paper filters or the pads but I know when I used it I had to make sure I kept the racking cane far away from any sediment meaning the bottom until the very last second cause any little bit would clog these filter pads. A 6 gallon batch would always take about 45 minutes to run through this filter even when crystal clear and the filter didnt clog! I will say if this is a dark wine maybe you think its clear and its truly not?


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I have a vinebrite filter and in mho, if it is clear enough to filter 5 gallons without plugging up, it doesn't need filtering. I still filter some, but it's hard to tell the filtered from the unfiltered (if you let it clear on its' own)


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I use this link (article) when it comes to fining it has some very good information.

Under Isinglass it says: Isinglass produces high lees volumes which settle badly and cling to vessel walls. Wine may therefore require two rackings following isinglass fining. Filtering should only be done when the wine is well clear of isinglass as the agent will clog filters.

You may want to also use Bentonite (also covered in the article) if you can get it and give it a few weeks to settle out then try again.
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Yeah, I dont use it as it surely has terrible flocculation properties!!! Very easily disturbed even after sutting awhile also.
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I have a vinebrite filter and in mho, if it is clear enough to filter 5 gallons without plugging up, it doesn't need filtering. I still filter some, but it's hard to tell the filtered from the unfiltered (if you let it clear on its' own)


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I respectfully totally disagree with you Bud, unless this wine is just for your enjoyment and no one else is drinking it. I spend a lot of tiome with my wine and want to make sure it is show room ready before I bottle it. Even clear wine will sparkle after a filtering.
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SBWS I always rack and put it through two coffee filters in a funnel before using my Boots Filter.

A friend of mine says it is something that comes with just Plums Dessert

I have been making wine for about 20 years and never had this before.

Wade E it is a filter pad, not one of these thin paper ones never got on with them.

I filter all my wine because, I enter a number of competitions and I just have to fill my bottles.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to remember this, I have a plum wine going right now made from Vintner's Harvest Plum Fruit Wine Base. I know it's taking it forever to clear. It was the longest time before it cleared at all and now it's got a little haze to it. I always use bentonite in the primary but I haven't used any other fining agent yet. I wonder if it isn't a pectin haze problem, I know Jack Keller has how to check for this on his site, I'll have to go read up.
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I use this link (article) when it comes to fining it has some very good information.

Under Isinglass it says: Isinglass produces high lees volumes which settle badly and cling to vessel walls. Wine may therefore require two rackings following isinglass fining. Filtering should only be done when the wine is well clear of isinglass as the agent will clog filters.

You may want to also use Bentonite (also covered in the article) if you can get it and give it a few weeks to settle out then try again.
Great link. Lottsa info there. Maybe we ought to see if it could be copied and used as a Sticky. Hey Mods, check it out. Arne.
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Old'n, would you mind sharing the recipe for this Plum? Is this a thicker type dessert wine?


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