Wine Making & Grape Growing Forum > Wine Making > Beginners Wine Making Forum > Aging = bad smell/taste?




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-26-2011, 04:12 PM   #1
Junior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lethbridge, AB
Posts: 15
Default Aging = bad smell/taste?

I made a 10L cheeky monkey Malbec about 10 months ago, it tasted OK at the time of bottling and was good until the time it was gone about 4 months later. After bottling this kit I gave a bottle to my mother who kept it at her house until last night when we drank it.

Upon pouring this bottle into the decanter the aroma was definatley apparent, it smelled heavily of Wet Dog, the taste was also off a bit, almost a bit tart.

My questions is, can poor cellaring conditions cause the wine to spoil so quickly, or can this problem be attributed to not adding extra sulphite to compensate for the aging. Where this particular bottle was stored was beside a glass sliding door and about 2ft away from a furnace duct. Although this bottle was never in direct sunlight I imagine that temperature fluctuations are occuring regularily, between running the furnace/AC, opening and closing of the door and the heat/cold loss attributed to being beside glass.

The spoilage seems pre-mature to me even with the poor storage condtions.


burton167can is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2011, 04:47 PM   #2
Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
philogeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 47
Default

I think it's likely a case of "all of the above".

Just curious: did you rack as necessary to get rid of sediment, and did you filter before you bottled?

For what it's worth, I put potassium metabisulfite in every wine I make, no exceptions.

I've experienced this sort of spoilage under a couple specific instances (may or may not be helpful in your case):
* the first bottle bottled (due to a bit too much air making it in there as the syphon gets started)
* the last bottle bottled (again, due to the syphon getting broken and introducing air)
* Not filtering, and ending up with sediment in the bottle (not sure whether this is due to a continued/restarted fermentation, or what)

If you had left it in the decanter for a couple hours, I wonder if it would have improved?


philogeek is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2011, 05:03 PM   #3
Top Secret Moderator
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ibglowin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lost Almost, NM
Posts: 10,366
Liked 127 Times on 112 Posts
Likes Given: 26

Default

"Wet Dog" smell is one of the biggest signs of "Cork Taint".

That said, you also had some incredibly poor storage conditions thrown on top of things.

Hard to say at this point exactly what the bottom line cause was.
__________________
Mike

Disclaimer:
The opinions expressed in this forum are strictly my own,
and should not be construed as the opinion or policy
of WineMakingTalk.com or its owners


"In vino veritas" - Visit the Château!

Location: Lost Almost, NM
ibglowin is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2011, 05:06 PM   #4
Junior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lethbridge, AB
Posts: 15
Default

As far as racking, I followed the kit directions exactly. The wine was filtered at the time of bottling with a #2 pad from Buon Vino. It may have improved, but we dumped it right away and had some 8 month old En Primeur which was great!
burton167can is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2011, 05:11 PM   #5
Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
philogeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 47
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by burton167can View Post
... we dumped it right away and had some 8 month old En Primeur which was great!
So, it ended well after all!
philogeek is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2011, 11:51 PM   #6
Super Moderator
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
winemaker_3352's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 5,260
Liked 28 Times on 27 Posts
Likes Given: 29

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibglowin View Post
"Wet Dog" smell is one of the biggest signs of "Cork Taint".

That said, you also had some incredibly poor storage conditions thrown on top of things.

Hard to say at this point exactly what the bottom line cause was.
Yup - that is exactly what i was going to say!! Ideal cellar temps are mid 50's and humidity in the 70'2 - i think. With that being said - not a lot of us have a cellar - so consistent temps are key.

You can store it in warmer temps - just make sure you keep the temp the same.


__________________
Thanks,

Jon - My Wine List

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go astray.
winemaker_3352 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Wine Making Forum Replies Last Post
Taste, Great. Smell, Yeasty? ThousandJulys Country Fruit Winemaking 4 04-24-2010 02:58 AM
Floral smell and taste on batches antislanti Beginners Wine Making Forum 4 05-16-2009 06:42 PM
WineXpert Kit Taste (smell) quntumleap Kit Winemaking 5 04-08-2009 10:53 PM
WineXpert Medicinal smell and taste MN-Mike Kit Winemaking 18 12-27-2006 02:31 AM
Yeast taste/smell in filtered wine MedPretzel Yeast, Additives & Wine Making Science 51 03-28-2005 06:55 PM



FOLLOW US ON



SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0